Monday, January 12, 2009

Nadir "the nutcase" Ahmed is at it again.

I recently had a discussion with Muslim apologist Nadir Ahmed of http://www.examinethetruth.com/ via pal talk. He sent me a YouTube link that he made. Here is the conversation:

nadir_ahmed: Christian scholars caught on tape running away from ExamineTheTruth.com: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6qk83XTLVk
nadir_ahmed: 3 min video
nadir_ahmed: any comments ?
Keith Thompson: on there you said "we debated prophetic, scientific, and archeological...." where did YOU debate that?
nadir_ahmed: virigina beach debate
nadir_ahmed: and the one i did with denis giron
nadir_ahmed: you can find it on my site
Keith Thompson: ok
Keith Thompson: let me watch the rest
Keith Thompson: so you say sami zaatari, jalal, and shabir ally are "ignorant muslims"
Keith Thompson: thank you for the video so I can send it to them
nadir_ahmed: never said that
Keith Thompson: yes you did
nadir_ahmed: but shabir ally
nadir_ahmed: yes
Keith Thompson: I am saving the video
Keith Thompson: right now
Keith Thompson: don't delete it
nadir_ahmed: its on youtube
Keith Thompson: I will email all of them tonight
nadir_ahmed: ok
nadir_ahmed: i will hold you to your promise
nadir_ahmed: if you get a chance, you might want to contact james white
nadir_ahmed: and send him tha video
nadir_ahmed: so he is not in the dark
Keith Thompson: sure
Keith Thompson: You will be famouse
Keith Thompson: pretty soon
nadir_ahmed: i already am
Keith Thompson: not as much as Dr White

Here is the video he was talking about.


As you can clearly see Nadir Ahmed is calling everyone who debated Dr. White after him an "ignorant Muslim". So I decided to contact these Muslim apologists and get their view on the matter since Nadir is calling them "ignorant Muslims".


Shabir Ally said:

From:Islam Info (comments@islaminfo.com)
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Sent:January 11, 2009 4:48:37 PM
To: Keith (Keithtruth89@hotmail.com)
Hello Keith,

Thanks for checking with me. I am not associated with Nadir, and I do not approve of the manner in which he engages others. But of course you already know what he thinks of me and methods.

In my own work I try to maintain a great deal of respect for other views and for the people who hold them. I hope this is reflected in my debates even though the debate format with rebuttals and counter-rebuttals can give rise to a competitive spirit.

Shabir


Shabir lets us know that he is not associated with Nadir and he doesn't approve of his actions.

Osama Abdullah states:

From:Osama Abdallah (quransearchcom@yahoo.com)
Sent:January 12, 2009 1:42:19 AM
To: Keith Thomp (keithtruth89@hotmail.com)
Dear Mr. Keith,

Thank you for the link. Please visit:
www.answering-christianity.com/dumpster_section.htm to see what I've written on this clown, Nadir Ahmed.

Kind Regards,
Osama Abdallah


Osama who is obviously quite offended of his fellow Muslim apologist brother calls him a "clown" and sent a link exposing Nadir.

Jalal Abualrub states:

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Sent:January 12, 2009 9:42:07 AM
To: Keith (Keithtruth89@hotmail.com)

thanks for your email. i do not dwell on people's weaknesses and errors. nadir ahmad is angry with me for a personal reason, and even though he said this and other things, i and you have better things to do than to spend time on this type of talk. just ignore the mistakes in what he says and take the good. he is talking about me in that remark, but i say that nadir ahmad has efforts in defensing islam and i do not wish to respond to what he says except in a good manner.... just ignore nadir ahmad, he can say whatever he wants, i am far more busy than to care to hear what he has to say if it is negative in nature.
thanks

jalal abualrub

Jalal notes that Nadir's weaknesses and errors should not be dwelled on. Jalal also says we have better things to do then focus on Nadir. I agree but this demonstrates that Nadir's attitude is not gaining him respect from either side. Rather if he wants to be taken seriously he should change his attitude. Jalal appears to not want to stoop to Nadirs level and thinks it is best to ignore Nadir which is a good thing. I would agree.

In a follow up email Jalal stated:

From:Info@IslamLife.Com (islamlife@gmail.com)
Sent:January 12, 2009 4:44:11
PMTo: Keith Thomp (keithtruth89@hotmail.com)
Cc: nadir Ahmed (nadir@examinethetruth.com)

We have a saying in Arabic, "He hit me, then cried, then rant ahead of me to complain about me."
Shame on you Nadir!

Well ladies and gentlemen as we can see Nadir Ahmed has virtually no support from his fellow Muslim apologist brothers and because of his immature behavior they ask us to ignore him.

Jesus is the risen Lord.
Amen

2 comments:

David Wood said...

I think it's funny that Nadir says that the "Virginia Beach debate" was on the prophetic, scientific, and archaeological evidence for Islam. The topic was "Trinity vs. Tawheed: Which is the True Concept of God?" Instead of addressing the actual topic, Nadir started rambling about Islam saving babies from Fetal Alcohol Syndrome.

I have since repeatedly offered Nadir the chance to debate the prophetic, scientific, and archaeological evidence for Islam, and he has repeatedly refused.

KeithTruth said...

David,

Nadir likes to change topics at the debate. He pretty much did that with Dr. White too. He has lost every debate and I think that his debating career is over for good.